{"id":480,"date":"2023-06-01T10:26:00","date_gmt":"2023-06-01T10:26:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/kosapics.com\/?p=480"},"modified":"2023-07-02T10:51:21","modified_gmt":"2023-07-02T10:51:21","slug":"the-universe-does-whatever-it-wants-with-your-art-anti-flag-interview","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/kosapics.com\/index.php\/2023\/interviews\/the-universe-does-whatever-it-wants-with-your-art-anti-flag-interview\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8222;The universe does whatever it wants with your art&#8221;- Anti-Flag Interview"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Photo by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/punkrockjosh87\/\"><strong>Josh Massie<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Wywiad po polsku na <a href=\"http:\/\/antyportal.net\/watpliwosci-to-realny-problem-ktory-zawsze-nam-towarzyszy-wywiad-anti-flag\/\">Antyportal.net<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Anti-Flag Interview<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Kosa<\/strong>: <em>Lies that they tell our children is your<\/em> 13th album \u2013 are you superstitious?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><strong><em>Chris #2: Not really. Honestly there are some things that deserve trepidation, but when you\u2019ve made this many records your learn that the universe does whatever it wants with your art.&nbsp;<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>After 30 years as a band and 13 albums under your belt do you even still get excited when the album<br>is released?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><strong><em>Chris #2, Anti-Flag: Absolutely. We have worked very hard to ensure that the 4 of us believe in these songs and believe in this band. And frankly we don\u2019t give a fuck if anyone else does.&nbsp;<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>What would you wish for when blowing candles on your 30 year band birthday cake?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><strong><em>Chris #2: The same thing we always wish for. The alleviation of suffering from our collective lives. &nbsp;<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Is this anniversary in any way important to you, and did it make you reminiscence about the past<br>with all the turning points in your career, all the ups and downs and if yes, could you share some of<br>them with us?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><strong><em>Chris #2: Yes and no. We are always looking back at what we\u2019ve done. The intention is to stay in the moment and focus on the work ahead, but there are valuable lessons in all of our pasts we can learn from to make us better stewards of the immediacy.&nbsp;<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Your last record is full of quest appearances. Where there any instructions that they were given<br>before the recording to fit your style, or they were free to express themselves in any way?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><em><strong>Chris #2: We gave them demos of how we would\u2019ve sung it, but let them do their own thing. We wanted them because of who they are and what their art means to us.<\/strong><\/em>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>In your interviews there\u2019s a lot talk about the ideas behind your songs, but I\u2019d say that there\u2019s<br>relatively little time dedicated to music. Doesn\u2019t that in any way hurt you as music creators?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><em><strong>Chris #2: Not really. These issues are what we are passionate about. We never see fault in letting passion lead the way.&nbsp;<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Because of social media and the way media works today, more and more people are living in their own information bubbles, sometimes going out of their way, not to get exposed to ideas that would influence their already set in stone worldview. Having that in mind, don\u2019t you feel like you\u2019re preaching to the quire more and more and where do you find the will to go on, as you\u2019re already 30 years doing this<br>and there were not that many significant changes in the world for the better?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><strong><em>Chris #2: There is immense value in both finding new people to be a part of social movements that strive for economic, racial, and environmental justice\u2026 but there is so much to gain from \u201cpreaching to the choir\u201d, we learn from each other, we pump each other up, we give each other the strength and energy to keep the fight going and hope alive.&nbsp;<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>On that note, were there any times during all those years when you seriously doubted the sense of<br>what you\u2019re doing?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><strong><em>Chris #2: Doubt is real and always prevalent. Which is why you can\u2019t view activism in wins and losses. And also why in your last question it\u2019s so important to find your people and champion one another. Always<\/em><\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Anti-Flag - This Is The End (For You My Friend) (Main Video)\" width=\"1778\" height=\"1000\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/qnVD7WuarSo?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><strong>Anti &#8211; Flag &#8211; This Is The End (For You My Friend) <\/strong><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>From your interviews I get the vibe that you\u2019re all positive, generally happy people, but as I<br>mentioned not that long ago, when I spoke to <strong>BigBrave<\/strong>, one of the few quotes I like is: \u201c<em>If you\u2019re not<br>outraged, you\u2019re not paying attention<\/em>\u201d, that can easily sum up the world we live in today. Going<br>through your lyrics I can see that you\u2019re clearly paying attention, so please tell me your secret \u2013 how<br>do you keep your anger at bay? I\u2019m asking for a friend.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><strong><em>Chris #2: For the most part when we talk to people about this work, you have to be an optimistic, empathetic person. That\u2019s where the care comes from. But anger can be a great motivator to make things different than they currently are. I believe if we channel that anger and frustration into our creativity and collectivity we will always be better than we were.&nbsp;<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>One of you, said that you\u2019re playing quick, short songs to catch the listeners attention as soon as<br>possible, so that you could get your message across. But, no offence, you\u2019re playing a pretty spot on<br>definition of punk rock, so wouldn\u2019t you have a better chance of catching listeners attention if you hit<br>them with something more out of the box?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><strong><em>Chris #2: We love punk rock. That\u2019s what inspires us. We don\u2019t want to write anything that isn\u2019t true to ourselves at this point. There are moments where we\u2019ve tried different things, to some degrees of success more than others, but we are always making and creating things that we want to hear or see.&nbsp;<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>What I\u2019m going to try to do now is hit you with a curve ball. Can you please give me three things that<br>you like about \u201cthe right\u201d and the capitalism and three things that you don\u2019t like about \u201cThe Left\u201d?<br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><strong><em>Chris #2: I don\u2019t really see the distinction. If you\u2019re talking conservative folks versus more socialist approaches, it\u2019s easy to find things to like between the groups. They\u2019re just people. We love people. As far as world travel, we love so many places because of the people. Montreal. Berlin. Helsinki. Pacentro. Pittsburgh. Kuala Lumpur. A lot of these places suffer from hyper-nationalist and OF COURSE the hyper-capitalism we all suffer from. But that\u2019s where I\u2019d start!<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Do you check what\u2019s the political situation in the countries that you visit?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><strong><em>Chris #2: We try to. Often the best information we receive is from the people at the show, how they share their work and their communities. We usually get more from those interactions than translated websites or newspapers.\u00a0<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>During, your 30 years on the scene, you probably did countless interviews, and talked to countless people \u2013 is there any question that you never got, that you\u2019re surprised that no one thought to ask?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><br><strong><em>Chris #2: We\u2019ve been asked a lot, and over all of our influences. 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